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On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« on: September 03, 2012, 12:21:15 PM »
The Bible does not explicitly state on which day of the week Jesus was crucified. The two most widely held views are Friday and Wednesday. Some, however, using a synthesis of both the Friday and Wednesday arguments, argue for Thursday as the day.

Jesus said in Matthew 12:40, “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Those who argue for a Friday crucifixion say that there is still a valid way in which He could have been considered in the grave for three days. In the Jewish mind of the first century, a part of day was considered as a full day. Since Jesus was in the grave for part of Friday, all of Saturday, and part of Sunday—He could be considered to have been in the grave for three days. One of the principal arguments for Friday is found in Mark 15:42, which notes that Jesus was crucified “the day before the Sabbath.” If that was the weekly Sabbath, i.e. Saturday, then that fact leads to a Friday crucifixion. Another argument for Friday says that verses such as Matthew 16:21 and Luke 9:22 teach that Jesus would rise on the third day; therefore, He would not need to be in the grave a full three days and nights. But while some translations use “on the third day” for these verses, not all do, and not everyone agrees that “on the third day” is the best way to translate these verses. Furthermore, Mark 8:31 says that Jesus will be raised “after” three days.

The Thursday argument expands on the Friday view and argues mainly that there are too many events (some count as many as twenty) happening between Christ's burial and Sunday morning to occur from Friday evening to Sunday morning. Proponents of the Thursday view point out that this is especially a problem when the only full day between Friday and Sunday was Saturday, the Jewish Sabbath. An extra day or two eliminates that problem. The Thursday advocates could reason thus: suppose you haven't seen a friend since Monday evening. The next time you see him it is Thursday morning and you say, “I haven’t seen you in three days” even though it had technically only been 60 hours (2.5 days). If Jesus was crucified on Thursday, this example shows how it could be considered three days.

The Wednesday opinion states that there were two Sabbaths that week. After the first one (the one that occurred on the evening of the crucifixion [Mark 15:42; Luke 23:52-54]), the women purchased spices—note that they made their purchase after the Sabbath (Mark 16:1). The Wednesday view holds that this “Sabbath” was the Passover (see Leviticus 16:29-31, 23:24-32, 39, where high holy days that are not necessarily the seventh day of the week are referred to as the Sabbath). The second Sabbath that week was the normal weekly Sabbath. Note that in Luke 23:56, the women who had purchased spices after the first Sabbath returned and prepared the spices, then “rested on the Sabbath” (Luke 23:56). The argument states that they could not purchase the spices after the Sabbath, yet prepare those spices before the Sabbath—unless there were two Sabbaths. With the two-Sabbath view, if Christ was crucified on Thursday, then the high holy Sabbath (the Passover) would have begun Thursday at sundown and ended at Friday sundown—at the beginning of the weekly Sabbath or Saturday. Purchasing the spices after the first Sabbath (Passover) would have meant they purchased them on Saturday and were breaking the Sabbath.

Therefore, according to the Wednesday viewpoint, the only explanation that does not violate the biblical account of the women and the spices and holds to a literal understanding of Matthew 12:40, is that Christ was crucified on Wednesday. The Sabbath that was a high holy day (Passover) occurred on Thursday, the women purchased spices (after that) on Friday and returned and prepared the spices on the same day, they rested on Saturday which was the weekly Sabbath, then brought the spices to the tomb early Sunday. Jesus was buried near sundown on Wednesday, which began Thursday in the Jewish calendar. Using a Jewish calendar, you have Thursday night (night one), Thursday day (day one), Friday night (night two), Friday day (day two), Saturday night (night three), Saturday day (day three). We do not know exactly when He rose, but we do know that it was before sunrise on Sunday (John 20:1, Mary Magdalene came “while it was still dark”), so He could have risen as early as just after sunset Saturday evening, which began the first day of the week to the Jews.

A possible problem with the Wednesday view is that the disciples who walked with Jesus on the road to Emmaus did so on “the same day” of His resurrection (Luke 24:13). The disciples, who do not recognize Jesus, tell Him of Jesus' crucifixion (24:21) and say that “today is the third day since these things happened” (24:22). Wednesday to Sunday is four days. A possible explanation is that they may have been counting since Wednesday evening at Christ's burial, which begins the Jewish Thursday, and Thursday to Sunday could be counted as three days.


Edit by Quasar:  Except for the fact He was buried before sunset, preceding Preparation day, on the day He was crucified. Theoretically on Wednesday, in this case, and therefore He would have risen sometime on Saturday and observed for the first time on the first day of the week].


In the grand scheme of things, it is not all that important to know what day of the week Christ was crucified. If it were very important, then God's Word would have clearly communicated the day and timeframe. What is important is that He did die and that He physically, bodily rose from the dead. What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve. John 3:16 and 3:36 both proclaim that putting your trust in Him results in eternal life! This is equally true whether He was crucified on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday.

Recommended Resource: The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus by Gary Habermas.

From: http://www.christianbook.com/the-case-for-the-resurrection-jesus/gary-habermas/9780825427886/pd/427886?event=AFF&p=1011693&

See also: http://www.gotquestions.org/three-days.html

The following is more input on the subject from another source:

 http://www.sabbath.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/HWA/k/463/subj/sabbath/Resurrection-Not-Sunday.htm


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2012, 12:47:35 AM »
Yes, we are in agreement that the lord Jesus died and was buried on Wednesday, preparation day for the Passover on Thursday.  Which was the first of two Sabbaths that week.  The second Sabbath was the regular weekly one they celebrate every week on Saturday.  Which is not clearly delineated in the Scriptures, but IMO is the answer of the three days and nights in the tomb of Mt.12:40.


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2012, 05:01:26 PM »
Yes, we are in agreement that the lord Jesus died and was buried on Wednesday, preparation day for the Passover on Thursday.  Which was the first of two Sabbaths that week.  The second Sabbath was the regular weekly one they celebrate every week on Saturday.  Which is not clearly delineated in the Scriptures, but IMO is the answer of the three days and nights in the tomb of Mt.12:40.


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2012, 03:07:07 PM »
What don't you understand about it?
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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2012, 05:19:39 PM »
Quasar,

re:  "What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve."


What punishment did the Messiah take that would otherwise have to be taken by sinners?

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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2012, 11:05:26 PM »
Quasar,

re:  "What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve."


What punishment did the Messiah take that would otherwise have to be taken by sinners?



Yes, but you're into an entirely different subject than that of this thread.  Start a new thread if you want to discuss that issue.


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2012, 07:36:04 AM »
Quasar,

re:  "Yes..."

"Yes" what?


re:  "...but you're into an entirely different subject..."

You're the one that changed it - I was merely asking a question about your comment.

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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2012, 11:33:05 AM »
Quasar,

re:  "Yes..."

"Yes" what?


re:  "...but you're into an entirely different subject..."

You're the one that changed it - I was merely asking a question about your comment.



Where do you find anything I posted on this thread that does not pertain to the subject, represented in the following?

What Sabbath Followed the Crucifixion?

Now we come to an objection some may raise, yet the very point which proves this truth. Perhaps you have noticed that the Scriptures say the day after the crucifixion was a Sabbath. Hence, for centuries, people have blindly assumed the crucifixion was on Friday.

Now we have shown by all four Gospels that the crucifixion day was called "the preparation." The preparation day for the Sabbath. But for what Sabbath?

John's Gospel gives the definite answer: "It was the preparation of the Passover."

"For that sabbath day was an high day" (John 19:14, 31).

Just what is a "high day"? Ask any Jew! He will tell you it is one of the annual holy days, or feast days. The Israelites observed seven of these every year—every one called a Sabbath! Annual Sabbaths fall on certain annual calendar dates, and on different days of the week in different years, just like the Roman holidays now observed. These Sabbaths might fall on Monday, on Thursday, or on Sunday.

If you will notice the following texts, you will see these annual holy days were all called Sabbath days: Leviticus 16:31; 23:24, 26-32, 39.

Notice Matthew 26:2: "Ye know that after two days is the feast of the passover, and the Son of man is betrayed to be crucified." And if you will follow through this chapter you will see that Jesus was crucified on the Passover!

And what was the Passover? In the twelfth chapter of Exodus you will find the story of the original Passover. The children of Israel killed the lambs, and struck the blood over the doorposts and on the side posts of their houses, and wherever the blood had thus been applied the death angel passed over that house, sparing it from death. Following the Passover was a holy convocation or annual Sabbath.

Observe the dates: "And in the fourteenth day of the first month is THE PASSOVER of the Lord. And in the fifteenth day of this month is the FEAST" (Numbers 28:16-17).

The Passover lamb, killed every year on the 14th of the first month called "Abib," was a type of Christ, the Lamb of God that taketh away the sin of the world. Christ is our Passover, sacrificed for us (I Corinthians 5:7).

Jesus was slain on the very same day the Passover had been slain every year. He was crucified on the 14th of Abib, the first Hebrew month of the year. And this day, the Passover, was the day before—and the preparation for—the Feast day, or annual high day Sabbath, which occurred on the 15th of Abib. This Sabbath might occur on any day of the week. Frequently it occurs, and is observed even today, on Thursday. For instance, this "high-day" Sabbath came on Thursday in 1972, 1975 and 1979, and will occur on Thursday in 1982, 1986 and 1989.

And the Hebrew calendar shows that in the year Jesus was crucified, the 14th of Abib, Passover day, the day Jesus was crucified, was Wednesday. And the annual Sabbath was Thursday. This was the Sabbath that drew on as Joseph of Arimathea hastened to bury the body of Jesus late that Wednesday afternoon. There were two separate Sabbaths that week!
 
Now which day of the week was the resurrection day?

Nowhere in the Bible is there any documentation that Jesus was resurrected on the first day of the week!  But rather, it was He was discovered as having been resurrected on the first day of the week!

The first investigators, Mary Magdalene and her companions, came to the sepulcher on the first day of the week (Sunday) very early, while it was yet dark, as the sun was beginning to rise, at dawn (Mark 16:2; Luke 24:1; John 20:1).

Now here are the texts most people have supposed stated the resurrection was at sunrise Sunday morning. But they do not say that!

When the women arrived, the tomb was already open! At that time Sunday morning while it was yet dark, Jesus was not there! Notice how the angel says, "He is not here, but is risen" (see Mark 16:6; Luke 24:6; Matthew 28:5-6).

Jesus was already risen at sunset Sunday morning! Of course He was. He rose from the grave in the late afternoon, near sunset!

And since we know Christ was buried late Wednesday afternoon, on Preparation day and that the resurrection took place at the same time of day three days later, we now know the resurrection of Christ occurred late Saturday afternoon.

The Sabbath day ended at sunset. It was late on that day, before the beginning of the first day of the week. It was not, then, a Sunday resurrection at all. It was a Sabbath resurrection!<<<

So the facts point to Jesus buriel on a Wednesday [Preparation day] at sunset:  To Thursday [Passover Sabbath] at sunset:  Day one.

Thusday [Passover Sabbath] at sunset to Friday at sunset: Day two.

Friday at Sunset to Saturday [Sabbath every week] at sunset: Day three.  72 hours in the tomb fulfilling Mt.12:40.

There is no way posible for Jesus to have been buried in His tomb if it had been on a Friday at sunset and risen early Sunday morning and fulfilled Mt.12:40.


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2012, 01:55:44 PM »
Quasar,

re:  "Where do you find anything I posted on this thread that does not pertain to the subject...?"

The subject of this topic was stated in the title "On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?"    In the body of your OP, you made the comment: ""What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve."  I merely asked you a question about that commen.    You reply I was "into an entirely different subject."  If your comment about "the punishment that all sinners deserve" wasn't off topic, why do you say that my question about that comment IS off topic?

BTW, I would still like to know what your "yes" is referring to. 

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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2012, 04:02:39 PM »
Quasar,

re:  "Where do you find anything I posted on this thread that does not pertain to the subject...?"

The subject of this topic was stated in the title "On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?"    In the body of your OP, you made the comment: ""What is equally important is the reason He died—to take the punishment that all sinners deserve."  I merely asked you a question about that commen.    You reply I was "into an entirely different subject."  If your comment about "the punishment that all sinners deserve" wasn't off topic, why do you say that my question about that comment IS off topic?

BTW, I would still like to know what your "yes" is referring to.



That remark in my OP states the reason for Jesus death IS OF EQUAL IMPORTANCE and refers you to another web site.  It does not change the subject.  Tell me, what does that have to do with what day Jesus was cruciefied and buried on?

What I meant "yes" by was that I was in agreement with you on what you said.  You like to argue over nothing don't you!


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2012, 07:34:00 PM »
Quasar,

re:  "That remark in my OP states the reason for Jesus death IS OF EQUALIMPORTANCE ...Tell me, what does that have to do with what day Jesus was cruciefied and buried on?"

It has absolutely nothing to do with it.  That's why I don't understand why you say that it is not about a different subject. 



re:  "What I meant yes' by was that I was in agreement with you on what you said. 

I don't know what you are in agreement with me about.  I simply asked you a question.  Perhaps you could explain? 


re:  "You like to argue over nothing don't you!"

Not if I can help it!  There doesn't seem to be much point in doing that! 

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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2012, 10:22:47 PM »
These are the final findings of when Jesus died and was buried, then resurrected three days later, fulfilling Mt.12:40, with 72 hours or more in the heart of the earth.

So the facts point to Jesus buriel on a Wednesday [Preparation day] at sunset:  To Thursday [Passover Sabbath] at sunset:  Day one.

Thusday [Passover Sabbath] at sunset to Friday at sunset: Day two.

Friday at Sunset to Saturday [Sabbath every week] at sunset: Day three.  72 hours in the tomb fulfilling Mt.12:40.

There is no way posible for Jesus to have been buried in His tomb if it had been on a Friday at sunset and risen early Sunday morning and fulfilled Mt.12:40.


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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 09:26:59 AM »
Quasar,

You have a question directed to you in reply #11.

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Re: On what day was Jesus crucified and buried on?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 12:57:55 AM »
Quasar,

You have a question directed to you in reply #11.



FYI, Your question pertaining to salvation was a "side remark," irrelevant to the subject of the day of Jesus death and buriel.  Your question is also equally irrelevant and will not be responded to again.


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