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SCHOOL of THEOLOGY => Religion & Theology => Topic started by: me again on July 15, 2014, 11:23:15 AM

Title: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: me again on July 15, 2014, 11:23:15 AM
What are your thoughts of the teachings of Joseph Prince?  ;D

Hero or heretic?  :o

Webpage: http://www.josephprince.org/

Youtube search: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=joseph+prince

He has only said one thing I disagree with so far and it was in reference to Matthew 7:14 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7%3A14&version=KJV).  :o
Title: Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: Stan on July 19, 2014, 04:22:03 AM
I ran into him in Israel on one of my trips. Had a nice conversation. Had no idea who he was at the time.
Title: Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: John Oscar on July 19, 2014, 06:26:23 AM
Hypergrace preacher.  I don't know enough about him to say "heretic" but his exegesis is selective and proof texts his way into his ideas about God, grace, and salvation.
Title: Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: me again on July 20, 2014, 01:57:53 PM
I ran into him in Israel on one of my trips. Had a nice conversation. Had no idea who he was at the time.
Wow it's a small world!!!

Hypergrace preacher.  I don't know enough about him to say "heretic" but his exegesis is selective and proof texts his way into his ideas about God, grace, and salvation.
There are a lot of terms that are being applied by other TV/internet preachers (i.e. greasy grace, cheap grace, etc.), but they don't come out and directly name Joseph Prince -- but I always wonder if they are referring to him.

At the other extreme, Catholics believe in something called "redemptive suffering." So the spectrum ranges from greasy grace to redemptive suffering.

Thank goodness we do not have to have a 100% accurate understanding of all Christian theologies to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. At the most basic level, we just need Jesus and His blood. Whew! I'm safe! I'm in!  :o

Title: Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: Zaph on July 27, 2014, 12:07:33 PM
Thank goodness we do not have to have a 100% accurate understanding of all Christian theologies to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. At the most basic level, we just need Jesus and His blood. Whew! I'm safe! I'm in!  :o

It is good to confidence in Jesus and our relationship with him and please don't think I'm aiming my comments at you because I know that I can't judge the heart. But we also know that many who will say the same exact thing that you do will not be in Heaven. How do I know??

Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

They thought they believed and were seemingly doing the fruit of true belief.. ie.. prophesying, casting out demons, and any thing else that falls under "many wonderful works." But yet Christ said that they were workers of iniquity. Deception wouldn't be deception if it was easy to discern. It appears that they who fall into this category have the same belief as the devil and his ilk.

Jas 2:19  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
Title: Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
Post by: me again on July 29, 2014, 06:22:12 PM
It is good to confidence in Jesus and our relationship with him and please don't think I'm aiming my comments at you because I know that I can't judge the heart. But we also know that many who will say the same exact thing that you do will not be in Heaven. How do I know??

Mat 7:21  Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 7:22  Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23  And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

They thought they believed and were seemingly doing the fruit of true belief.. ie.. prophesying, casting out demons, and any thing else that falls under "many wonderful works." But yet Christ said that they were workers of iniquity. Deception wouldn't be deception if it was easy to discern. It appears that they who fall into this category have the same belief as the devil and his ilk.

Jas 2:19  Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
I agree with you 100% and it is, indeed, a mystery to us, but it is not a mystery to the God we serve because He knows the heart, to include the heart of the wicked who are deceived. What is a mystery to us is clear as day to Him.