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Town Hall / Re: What do you use this site for now, Stan?
« on: July 17, 2017, 10:08:15 AM »
I remember you being KevinGaily (sp), but I don't see your old account on the administrative screen.   Not sure what happened, but it might have been an auto purge for people who haven't logged in for a long time.

I apologize....I guess you can remake an account with your old name.

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Town Hall / Re: What do you use this site for now, Stan?
« on: July 15, 2017, 05:15:33 AM »
I saw the email address/profile name and almost automatically deleted you as a spammer :D

Welcome back Kevin!

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Town Hall / Re: What do you use this site for now, Stan?
« on: January 29, 2017, 07:33:27 PM »
I pop in at least once a week to see if there are new posts or new members needing approval.  Nothing in a while....

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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 23, 2016, 01:25:41 PM »
This has to be the longest discussion ever....started in November of 2012...lol   ;D

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Religion & Theology / Re: Pedophilia
« on: December 20, 2015, 09:13:06 PM »
It is and almost has to be the "scarlet letter" in church's because of the high recidivism rate among those who abuse the young.  I've had to deal with several in church's where I've been in leadership, and they are under strict rules of where they can and cannot go to the point of even needing an adult escort to use the bathroom.

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Town Hall / Re: My day job :)
« on: September 02, 2015, 09:09:41 AM »
Good job!

I might steal the example for a sermon someday  :P

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Town Hall / Re: Jail Ministry?
« on: December 05, 2014, 08:14:21 AM »
I've had experience both with the local county jail, and the state prison system.

Kenosha County Jail (both sites)- church service is an earned right, so the prisoners I was performing a church service for were either low level offenders, or medium level offenders who through good behavior earned the right to attend church.  Usually we did three services for about 20-30 people apiece.  They marched them in, sat them down, and then locked me in with them.  We did worship via a CD player with song sheets, and then I'd preach a repentance heavy Gospel message.  I had many decisions, but since we could not follow up, I'm not sure how many stuck.  They women were the best ones to do in my opinion- not as hardened as the men.
Cynicism would try to get me down about doing it thinking (as the guards would mention)-
The are only coming to get you to show up at the hearing and give them a good word
These are just jail house conversions- they'll be back on the street doing the same thing
They are playing you to get you to do something for them

Either way, I felt it was a great ministry to be involved in.  I did it twice a month on average until the head chaplain retired (a RC nun) and hired a Muslim in her place ("after all, it's all the same god"-her quote), and all of the Christian ministers were promptly told no more ministry for "security reasons".  Muslim clerics aren't an issue apparently as I know a few and they are allowed in.  Okay, rant over...

State Prison System- be ready to be treated like an inmate in segregation by the guards.  With the county system, we were searched (patted down) and asked to empty pockets, mostly for our own safety that we weren't bringing in things that could be used as weapons.  State prison was another animal entirely.  The guards were very demeaning to clergy, openly made fun of them and disrespected them in front of inmates, and did everything they could to disrupt services.  I was at both Waupun and Fox Lake and I'd have to say I wouldn't waste my time because of the guards behavior.
Saying that, Jackson County correctional is pretty close to me.  I know a few of the guards from working the hospital.  I'll ask them about it since I already have a relationship with them.  I'd like to get involved again...
Perhaps Florida is better...

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General Rules, Guidelines & Statement of Faith / Re: Jesus
« on: October 26, 2014, 08:15:05 AM »
We need a "like" button :)

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Let's clarify some terms here as it seems like English is not your primary language-
Philosophy is defined as the wisdom of man.  We are talking about religious doctrine which admittedly can be pigeon-hold into a philosophy, but for the sake of this discussion, lets keep it separate for the sake of clarity.

I'm not sure where you get the idea of classes of men, unless it is the Hindu caste system which Christianity and Western Civilization does not recognize so we don't really have a common frame of reference to discuss that.  Christianity recognizes all men and women has having the same potential to receive salvation regardless of what they have done, or the "station" they were born to in life.  A person who is a murderer can be saved and then be a priest or pastor in a church, even rising to leadership within a denomination.  Paul from the bible is a great example- he was a murderer yet wrote at least 12 of the New Testament bible books.

Jesus Christ did not preach as His first message "You shall not kill".  Jesus' first message was "Repent (turn away from sin) for the Kingdom of God is here!"

Also, the word "kill" in the New Testament means "murder" which is defined as "the taking of life because of selfish desire".  If it means what you think it means- we cannot take any life for any reason, then we can't even breathe as every time we take a breath, we "kill" microbes in the air with our immune system.  We also can't eat, as that causes death of plant or animal.  The New Testament and Jesus both recognize that there are times where people have to take up arms to defend themselves in war and personal self defense, even telling his disciples to carry swords, but not to live by them (use a sword to advance His message).

Finally, the Judeo-Christian religion has stood for over 6,000 years- far longer than any other organized system of religious practice known to man.  I seriously doubt it's in any trouble today, or every will be.

Many blessings my friend

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you are talking nonsense. and the answer is god is unlimited.

Then why should you limit it by one son?" even ( limited or ) Ordinary men have more than one son, and ( unlimited ) God has got only one son." Why?

It's not nonsense at all.  You have to be very clear on what you are speaking of, as word mean something.  If we are talking about a god that can do that which is evil, then we are not talking about the Judeo-Christian God.

Which god are you speaking of sir?

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Jesus on hell being a fire- Matt 5:22, Matt 6:30, Matt 7:19, Matt 25:41, Mark 9:43, 48-49 (also talks of being eternal), Luke 16:24
Rev 20:14-15 speaks both of fire and it's eternity.  That is by far NOT an exhaustive list.

Something from my personal study (from various commentaries/authors)- Do you know why God had Adam first, then Moses institute burnt offerings for the sin/atonement offerings in the bible?  Because it would point to the final destination of sin and the sinner- the lake of fire.  The animal was suffering the payment for sin for us, until the Lamb of God did it for us.

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Unlimited in power and knowledge, but limited in action by His character (i.e. God can never do that which is evil)

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Religious News / Re: CANADIAN IMAMS WARNS CANADIAN MUSLIMS ABOUT ISIS
« on: September 11, 2014, 06:50:29 AM »
From my Facebook post this morning-

"Upon returning to Pearl Harbor the day after the attack by Imperial Japanese forces, Admiral William Halsey surveyed the wreckage from the bridge of the USS Enterprise and told his crew-

"Before we're through with them, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell."

We need men like THAT to fight this war against Jihadist terror."
#neverforget

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Religious News / Re: CANADIAN IMAMS WARNS CANADIAN MUSLIMS ABOUT ISIS
« on: September 08, 2014, 12:00:50 PM »
It's about time an Islamic organization speaks out against the extremists in their midst.

Now if CAIR in the USA would do so...

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