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Messages - John Oscar

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Let's clarify some terms here as it seems like English is not your primary language-
Philosophy is defined as the wisdom of man.  We are talking about religious doctrine which admittedly can be pigeon-hold into a philosophy, but for the sake of this discussion, lets keep it separate for the sake of clarity.

I'm not sure where you get the idea of classes of men, unless it is the Hindu caste system which Christianity and Western Civilization does not recognize so we don't really have a common frame of reference to discuss that.  Christianity recognizes all men and women has having the same potential to receive salvation regardless of what they have done, or the "station" they were born to in life.  A person who is a murderer can be saved and then be a priest or pastor in a church, even rising to leadership within a denomination.  Paul from the bible is a great example- he was a murderer yet wrote at least 12 of the New Testament bible books.

Jesus Christ did not preach as His first message "You shall not kill".  Jesus' first message was "Repent (turn away from sin) for the Kingdom of God is here!"

Also, the word "kill" in the New Testament means "murder" which is defined as "the taking of life because of selfish desire".  If it means what you think it means- we cannot take any life for any reason, then we can't even breathe as every time we take a breath, we "kill" microbes in the air with our immune system.  We also can't eat, as that causes death of plant or animal.  The New Testament and Jesus both recognize that there are times where people have to take up arms to defend themselves in war and personal self defense, even telling his disciples to carry swords, but not to live by them (use a sword to advance His message).

Finally, the Judeo-Christian religion has stood for over 6,000 years- far longer than any other organized system of religious practice known to man.  I seriously doubt it's in any trouble today, or every will be.

Many blessings my friend

you are talking nonsense. and the answer is god is unlimited.

Then why should you limit it by one son?" even ( limited or ) Ordinary men have more than one son, and ( unlimited ) God has got only one son." Why?

It's not nonsense at all.  You have to be very clear on what you are speaking of, as word mean something.  If we are talking about a god that can do that which is evil, then we are not talking about the Judeo-Christian God.

Which god are you speaking of sir?

Jesus on hell being a fire- Matt 5:22, Matt 6:30, Matt 7:19, Matt 25:41, Mark 9:43, 48-49 (also talks of being eternal), Luke 16:24
Rev 20:14-15 speaks both of fire and it's eternity.  That is by far NOT an exhaustive list.

Something from my personal study (from various commentaries/authors)- Do you know why God had Adam first, then Moses institute burnt offerings for the sin/atonement offerings in the bible?  Because it would point to the final destination of sin and the sinner- the lake of fire.  The animal was suffering the payment for sin for us, until the Lamb of God did it for us.

Unlimited in power and knowledge, but limited in action by His character (i.e. God can never do that which is evil)

« on: September 11, 2014, 06:50:29 AM »
From my Facebook post this morning-

"Upon returning to Pearl Harbor the day after the attack by Imperial Japanese forces, Admiral William Halsey surveyed the wreckage from the bridge of the USS Enterprise and told his crew-

"Before we're through with them, the Japanese language will be spoken only in hell."

We need men like THAT to fight this war against Jihadist terror."

« on: September 08, 2014, 12:00:50 PM »
It's about time an Islamic organization speaks out against the extremists in their midst.

Now if CAIR in the USA would do so...

Town Hall / New Job
« on: August 28, 2014, 10:32:33 AM »
As of mid-September, I am now the senior pastor of Whitehall Assembly of God in Whitehall, Wisconsin.

We move up there in the next few weeks.

All denomination/movement/fellowships (whatever title you give them) suffer from the same law of entropy as anything else in life.  Generally about 3 generations in, they loose the original fire that caused them to "reform", and they substitute external religious activity for the passion of knowing God.

You even often, but not always, see this in families- first generation Christians are on fire.  Second have some passion but it's more tradition for them, third generation leaves the faith.

Religion & Theology / Re: Joseph Prince: Hero or Heretic?
« on: July 19, 2014, 06:26:23 AM »
Hypergrace preacher.  I don't know enough about him to say "heretic" but his exegesis is selective and proof texts his way into his ideas about God, grace, and salvation.

Only an opinion-

If you measure a denomination by it's success in bringing people to saving faith in Jesus the Christ as Lord and Savior, the Roman Catholic Church probably has the largest failure rate of any modern denomination.  I'm not saying you can't be saved and Catholic, I'm only saying the purity of the Gospel gets lost in the minutia of the church's extra biblical ritual and beliefs.
Not to say that many Protestant denominations don't share the same problem...

Just an opinion.

Religion & Theology / Re: To Hell and Back
« on: May 26, 2014, 08:55:36 AM »
Zaph was questioning the experience not the reality of heaven or life after death.

I too hold subjective experiences a distant second to objective fact.

I think he is being hyper-literal and I can't think of a spiritual or biblical reason to make this distinction...well, perhaps someone who is hyper-charismatic to the point of worshiping their gifts from God instead of the giver of the gifts.

When we are in heaven, we have no need for the gifts- "For now we see only a reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known."

Religion & Theology / Re: In search of Truth...
« on: May 05, 2014, 06:29:28 PM »
I'm in the 2%.  Truth doesn't need to hide or isolate itself- you will discover it if you are honest about the facts.

We need like buttons like Facebook has  :P

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