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Ask Your Bible Questions Here!!! / Re: Cornelius and Acts 10:30
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:20:41 AM »
What difference would that make in any way to the to the recorded context?


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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 28, 2016, 10:15:23 AM »
FYI, you will not obtain any better response to your questions than what you have received, for what importance there is to any of it.  Just what do you mean by the "sixth day crucifixion folks," in the OP?


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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 27, 2016, 12:20:27 PM »
In order for you to find the answers to your questions on this issue, it will be necessary to understand the ancient Hebrew way of determining their day and night time definitions, such as the following:

The Jews appear anciently to have divided the night (from sunset to sunrise) into three watches. (Judges 7:19; Ex. 14:24; I Sam.:1 ; Lam. 2:19.) But in the time of Christ the night was divided into four watches. (Matt. 14:25; Mark 6:48.) Hence Christ said that the master of the house might come "at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning." Mark 13:35.

It also appears that the Jews divided the night (from sunset to sunrise) into hours. Luke says that it was "at the third hour of the night" (Acts 23 :23) that Lysias sent Paul, escorted by soldiers, from Jerusalem to Caesarea. This was nine o'clock in the evening. The Lord's messenger comments thus : "At nine in the evening, the body of soldiers, with Paul in the midst, marched out of the fortress, and through the dark and silent streets of the city, and at a rapid pace pursued their journey toward Caesarea."—Sketches From the Life of Paul, p. 227. (Many Bible commentators concur in this opinion.)

https://www.ministrymagazine.org/archive/1946/04/jewish-division-of-day-into-hours

 See following charts:

http://www.agapebiblestudy.com/charts/jewishtimedivision.htm


Re your question in post #70:  Are you not questioning the viability of the written word?  IMO, you are.


Quasar

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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 26, 2016, 11:16:45 PM »
Quasar,
re:  "Since you seem to be unable to do this for yourself, I will do it for you."

In order for your Jewish Encyclopedia article to be analogous to my question, it would have to show where a calendar day was counted as a calendar day when no part of the calendar day could have taken place.  It doesn't do that.



re:  "The only relevance I can find about the basis for your questioning this issue, is that you doubt what the Scriptures say about it."

Where have I done that?   To which of my posts are you referring?


And just where in the Bible do you find a calendar day was counted as a calendar day when no part of the calendar day could have taken place? 


Quasar



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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 26, 2016, 10:22:03 AM »
Since you seem to be unable to do this for yourself, I will do it for you.  The only relevance I can find about the basis for your questioning this issue, is that you doubt what the Scriptures say about it.



DAY (Hebrew, "yom"):

By: Emil G. Hirsch, Michael Friedländer


In the Bible, the season of light (Gen. i. 5), lasting "from dawn [lit. "the rising of the morning"] to the coming forth of the stars" (Neh. iv. 15, 17). The term "day" is used also to denote a period of twenty-four hours (Ex. xxi. 21).

In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day.

Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time. The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar).

"The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).

Source:  http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/5007-day


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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 25, 2016, 12:19:46 PM »
When are you going to the party and understand, you aren't going to find the answer you're asking for here, since none that you have been given suits you?  One more time...you're going to have to put your question into a search engine and see what you get from that!  As if it is of any consequence at all.


Quasar

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1- Passover: The Death of Our LORD Jesus Christ

 2- Feast of Unleavened Bread: The Burial of Our LORD Jesus Christ

 3- Feast of Firstfruits: The Resurrection of Our LORD Jesus Christ

 4- Pentecost: The Giving of the Holy Spirit to the Church

 5- Feast of Trumpets: Pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church

 6- Day of Atonement: The Second Coming of the LORD Jesus Christ

 7- Feast of Tabernacles: Inauguration of the Millennial Reign of the LORD Jesus Christ on Earth.


Quasar


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Religion & Theology / Re: Pedophilia
« on: February 24, 2016, 11:37:51 AM »
You are dead on the mark with that assessment in the decay of morality in the U.S., me again!  Which also includes the legalizing of marijuana!  I've despaired over it ever since WWII!


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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 24, 2016, 11:28:44 AM »
I gave you my answer to that in my previous post.  Why don't you take the time to start doing some investigating on your own?


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Religion & Theology / Re: Justification by 'getting it right'
« on: February 24, 2016, 11:24:46 AM »
According to the Scriptures, good works are expected of us AFTER we have become born again Christians, as seen in the following:

6 "And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus, 7 in order that in the coming ages he might show the incomparable riches of his grace, expressed in his kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."


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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 24, 2016, 12:26:30 AM »
Go to any Jewish ministry of the Gospel and you will get your answer!  Such as Jew's For Jesus, His Chosen People Ministries, or any other of many you can find by doing a Google or Bing search!

As I said before, they count any part of a day as a full day, in any prophecy.


Quasar

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You have refuted nothing except to express a distortion of the 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel!  See the following facts exposing your views!  There is no way you can prove the results of the fulfilled part of the prophecy, of 69 weeks of seven years each, by trying to begin in Artaxerxes 7th year of reign, in 457 B.C., as the following will prove:

Artaxerxes decree to rebuild Jerusalem in his 20th year of reign, in Neh.2:1-8:

With the Sabbath Resurrection firmly pegged to A.D. 34, we can now show how the Daniel 9:24-25 prophecy of Messiah's first coming works out perfectly and naturally with the Sabbatical Year.   (The  online book locates numerous historical and biblical sabbatical year.)   I will will only discuss a most interesting synchronism here.   About 165 A.D. Rabbi Yose Halaphta wrote a book called Seder Olam, which was incorporated into the Talmud.   In this book he placed the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 69.   Although the date for the fall of Jerusalem was incorrect, Halaphta knew when the correct Sabbatical cycle was.  He work places the fall of Jerusalem in the first year of the seven year sabbath  cycle.   That makes A.D. 67/68 the Sabbath year.   

        The sabbath year comes regularly every seven years.   Accordingly, the very year before A.D. 34 is a sabbath year: 32/33 A.D.    Also if you keep counting backward, the year 445/444 B.C. was a sabbath year on the same cycle.    It was in this sabbath year, 445/444 B.C. that Nehemiah rebuilt the city of Jerusalem.   The prophecy calls sabbath year cycles "week" or "sevens".  However, it is little known that the Sabbath year itself is called a "seven".    The text calls for seven sevens and sixty two sevens, or 69 sabbatical years.   Then it says "after" this time period expires, the Messiah would be "cut off", a Hebrew idiom meaning to be put to death or banished.   The number of Sabbath years from 445/444 B.C. to A.D. 32/33 is EXACTLY 69.   That is right, the fit is exact.   There is no need for any manipulative tricks, like resorting to the claim of a prophetic year of 360 days.   The actual sabbatical cycle is all that is needed.   It is the one that Israel really observed.   It is the one that Israel will again learn to observe when Israel again obeys the Torah of Messiah Yeshua.

         There was a 360 year before the great flood, and there only seems to be one in the book of Revelation simply because many ignorant of the biblical new moon errantly assume a month is always 30 days.  For instance the 42 months are NOT 1260 days.   But these matters are explained in the "Prophecy" sections of the online book.

         Knowing the correct Sabbath year, we can use this information to reconstruct the year of Jubilee.  The year of Jubilee comes after seven cycles of sabbatical years.   The year after the 49th year is the Jubilee, which is called the 50th year (Lev. 25:1-8).   When one discovers one piece of a puzzle, then other pieces start to fit too.   You know you are putting a puzzle together correctly when pieces start to fit all over the place.   For this reason, we can have absolute certainty about when and how Yeshua rose from the dead.   We can be certain about biblical chronology.   We can prove what we believe to the world.   We can be assured of an absolutely solid historical foundation for the good news.

         We can also be sure of one other very important thing.   Did you know that every Church and denomination and sect has a view of biblical history and chronology that is necessary to support their different doctrines and teachings?   They may not tell you about it, but their doctrines require certain beliefs about chronology as well.   You can be sure, that if you know and thoroughly test this chronology, that you will never be deceived by these cults and alternative Christianities that compete with the original Faith that Messiah Yeshua once delivered to the Saints.   And you can be sure that your knowledge of the original faith is absolutely correct.

         The Jubilee year is intimately connected with the Messianic restoration at the end of the age.  In the year of Jubilee, the "Great Trumpet" is blown, announcing redemption of the land of Israel.   We can use our knowledge of the sabbath year to show how the Jubilee cycle fits.   This little article, however is a summary of the online book, and only part of it at that.  So I speak in more general terms here.  The Jubilee is synchronized with the Exodus and Hezekiah's 15th and 16th years, a period of time that works out with all the other biblical data as exactly 18 Jubilees.  The Jubilee is also alluded to in the 2nd year of King Saul (1 Sam. 13:1-3), the 4th year of David (2 Sam. 6:15), the fall of Nineveh (Isaiah 27:13), the restoration of Nebuchadnezzar to his throne (Dan. 4:34).  The Jubilee also synchronizes with the first year of creation.   This all works out perfectly with all other biblical data, with no contradictions.

For the complete article go to the following which is a long read:

http://www.torahtimes.org/SabbathResurrection/The%20Sabbath%20Resurrection.htm


Quasar

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Religion & Theology / Re: Three Days and Three Nights
« on: February 23, 2016, 10:52:17 AM »
Mt.12:39-20 happen to be one of those examples where part of a day made Jesus remarks a true fact!  Not speculation, as seen in the following:


The Hebrew day begins at sunset the day before and fulfills the prophecy:

Wednesday @ sunset = Thursday = 24 hours

Thursday @ sunset = Friday = 24 hours = Passover Sabbath

Friday @ sunset = Saturday =24 hours = seventh day Sabbath

Sunday morning, first day of the week = Jesus resurrected.

Describes Jesus in the tomb for three days and three nights, confirming Mt.12:40.


Quasar


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Religion & Theology / Re: Theology of what happens when a person dies..
« on: February 23, 2016, 10:36:13 AM »
Hello Stan,

Reference to the parable Jesus made in Lk.16:19-31, before He shed His blood and died on the cross; about Lazarus going to the bosom of Abraham in hell, and the rich man going to hell, with a wide chasm between them, is a perfect profile of OT Sheol.

Because it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins, as recorded in Heb.10:4, confirming Rom.3:25-26.  During OT times, no one went to heaven, except Enoch and Elijah.

Following Jesus shed blood and death on the cross, after the advent of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost, recorded in Acts 2:1-3, that all changed, as recorded in 2 Cor.5:8, and everyone who ever believed in Jesus from that time to the present day, go to be with Jesus in heaven.  Which is confirmed in 1 Thess.4:14, when all the "sleepers" those who previously died in Christ, are seen [prophetically] returning with Him from heaven, when He comes to rapture His Church, in verse 16.  From where He will take all believers with Him to heaven, as recorded in verse 17 and in Jn.14:2-3, 28.


Quasar

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According to the Scriptures, your lengthy cut and pastes are a complete distortion of their proper and intended interpretation, as follows:

This is what your claim Artaxerxes decree in his 7the year of reign does to Daniels's 70 weeks of years prophecy:  457 B.C. - 444B.C. = 13 years:  A 4,680 day addition to 173,880 days from March 14, 444 B.C. to April 6, 32 A/D.  Completing 69 weeks of the 70 week prophecy; 483 years of the 490 year total.
 
Your claim of a 457 B.C. beginning of the prophecy in Artaxerxes 7th year would cause an error of 13 years. or 4,680 days when attempting to reconcile it to the 69 weeks X 7 years each, which total 483 years from Artaxerxes ONLY decree to rebuild Jerusalem, in His 20th year, in Neh.2:1-8.
 
By taking the 457 B.C. to the 69th week in Dan.9:26, you would have to add 4,680 days, or 13 years to the time frame laid out in verses 25-26, to reach Jesus triumphant entry into Jerusalem, on April 6, 32 A.D.  And 720 more days, or 2 more years added to that, in order to reach the 34 A.D. you claim is the ending of the 69th week.  Which does not square with the 69 X 7  formula of the prophecy in any sense of the word!  Beginning in 457 B.C. for 69 X 7 would end up in 19 A.D. + 2 more years to 34 A.D., or 720 more days, which translates into 21 A.D.!  Provide your mathematical formula to prove it, as I have from qualified sources!
 
From another source: http://www.360calendar.com/find_New_Year_on_360_calendar.html

Here:  http://endtimepilgrim.org/70wks3.htm
 
Here:  http://www.harvardhouse.com/prophetictech/new/linear.htm
 
 
Based on the 360 day Hebrew year. Which makes no difference whatever from a  365.2425 day year, when all the necessary corrections are made.
 
 360 X 483 = 173,880 days.
1. 32 years [AD] X 365 days in our year = 11,680 days.
2. 445 years [BC] X 365 days in our year = 162,425 days.
3. Total 174,105 days divided by 365 = 477 years.
4. Plus 24 days between the date of the decree in 445 BC and Jesus cut-off in 32 AD = 477 years, 24 days
5. Subtract one year because there is no year zero between 1 BC and 1 AD. = 476 years, 24 days.
6. 476 years X 365 days = 173,740 days +24 = 173,764 Days
7. Add days of the leap years over 476 years. Divided by 4 = 119 days = 173,883 days
8. Subtract 1/128 Calendar year day for every solar year: Leap year omitted every 128 years.= -3 days = 173,880 days!
 
Which reveals the 360 day prophetic year of Israel is the very same as our present  365.2425  day year when all the corrections have been made to the latter.
 
The 70th week of Daniel's prophecy, of the final 7 years, is the Tribulation, or Jacob's Trouble [Jer.30:7.] which will conclude the 490 year prophecy decreed upon his people, with a 2,000 year parenthetic in between, that covers the entire church age!


Who is the "he" who confirms the covenant with many, in verse 27?  It is clearly the Antichrist, who is the person who triggers the 70th week, AKA the 7 year tribulation!

Review the following:

http://deeperwalk.lefora.com/topic/19401571/The-Rider-On-The-White-Horse-In-Rev62#.VWs319VViko

Here:  http://focusonthekingdom.org/articles/seventywks.htm

Here: http://www.preceptaustin.org/daniel_927.htm


As for your claim there is no gap between verses 69 and 70, and that the full 490 years of the prophecy has already been fulfilled is false!  Jesus disciples asked Him in Mt.24:3, what the sign of His [second] coming would be, and of the end of the age!  NONE OF WHICH HAS YET TAKEN PLACE!

Jesus Olivet discourse in Mt.24:4-31 is an amplification of Dan.9:27! 


Quasar
 

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