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« on: June 27, 2005, 06:22:21 PM »
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I teach a generic "basic driver improvement course," which is somewhat stressful because I want the students to be interested and to learn something that they will willingly implement once they are released back into the real world.  I've modified the curriculum to keep the students interested, engaged and awake.  I know that I must be doing something right because after the class, the students are required to evaluate the instructor as either excellent, good, average, needs improvement or bad!!![/i]  I have consistently received a score of excellent about 98% of the time, with the other 2% being good.  As I continue to get burned out, my evaluations may  start to slip.  :snicker:

Now I don't preach to the students about salvation or our Lord Jesus Christ because I'm not being paid to do that.  And I also "hold back" because, frankly, I could easily be a firebrand-preacher who is extremely energetic, thought provoking and engaging. Really!!! :laugh:  However, I do implement some basic biblical concepts into the class that the students never object to ie. do unto others as you would have them do unto you, etc.  These basic principles are easily incorporated into a driving class.  

But...

I often wonder...

What would it be like to preach or to talk about the Word of God?  To capture the hearts and minds of the listeners and to make them think about salvation, right then and there?  Maybe someday. Anything to keep souls out of hell.
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"So then, stand firm and hold to the traditions :o which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2005, 08:02:26 PM »
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What would it be like to preach or to talk about the Word of God? To capture the hearts and minds of the listeners and to make them think about salvation, right then and there? Maybe someday. Anything to keep souls out of hell.


Uh, we are called to go into all the world and proclaim the Word of God. The part of the Body of Christ God has called me into allows me to not only preach and teach one on one but I also teach adult Sunday school classes, a 13 week course on Revelation/Daniel, and preaching/teaching from the pulpit. No, I am not a Pastor nor have I been to Bible school/seminary. I am an elder within my church and have serve in one way shape or form for 18 years there abouts. I also head up the entire helps ministry within our church, which is everything and everybody except for the Pastor. I function in the position of an associate pastor, according to my Pastor.

God just wants us to be faithful with what we have where we are at. Sharing the Good News with a waitress at the diner is just as much important as sharing it in front of hundreds. Some are called to the pulpit while others are called to the toilet. What I mean by that is even those who are satified cleaning the church are just as important to God as the preacher who is in the pulpit. It is a;ll about being a servant.

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« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2005, 08:07:20 AM »
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What would it be like to preach or to talk about the Word of God? To capture the hearts and minds of the listeners and to make them think about salvation, right then and there? Maybe someday. Anything to keep souls out of hell.


Until you start attending church you're not going to get that opportunity, and should not get that opportunity.

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« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2005, 09:38:45 PM »
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Until you start attending church you're not going to get that opportunity, and should not get that opportunity.
Oh Barry Barry Barry. :doh:  We all have a dream in our heart.  We all have a destiny to fulfill.  Generally, the dream in our heart has something to do with our destiny.  My destiny is to deny hell as many souls as possible.  God isn't done with me yet. ;)  

You were either raised in a church and/or you are a regular churchgoer now.  Fine.  More power to you.  But for you to suggest that I should NOT be allowed to prevent people going to hell is, well, crazy!!! :doh:

Whatever the Lord's calling for me -- I will fulfill it.  Unequovically and without a shadow of a doubt.  :snicker:

And the same goes for the rest of the Body of Christ. ;)
"So then, stand firm and hold to the traditions :o which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

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« Reply #4 on: July 01, 2005, 11:49:19 PM »
Going to church doesn't qualify one as a preacher or teacher. But I do agree that it is the place to be!

According to scripture:

Heb 10:23-25
24 And let us consider one another in order to stir up love and good works, 25 not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as is the manner of some, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching.
NKJV

We do not go to church just for ourselves. In fact we should be attending church first to worship God, and secondly to minister to others as the above scripture dictates. To stir up love and good works. We are to exhort and encourage one another.

Submission is the basis for a solid Christian walk. Submission not only to God and the Holy Spirit but to the Five Fold Ministry: the Apostle, the Prophet, the Evangelist, the Pastor and the Teacher. Especially the PAstor. We cannot be perfected for work of the ministry (preaching and teaching the Word of God);

Eph 4:11-16

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head -- Christ --  16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
NKJV

As we see in the above passage we gain much by being under the authority of the five fold ministry. Very much. It is how we grow as a member of the body of Christ as a whole. Everyone supplying and doing their part. If one is not a part of a body particular then they are not supply their part which the rest need.

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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2005, 03:51:45 PM »
One more thing, Barry...

While you are in church in the morning, it is highly likely that I am sleeping (due to working late); and when you are in church in the evening, it is highly likely that I am working.  With that in mind, are you advising that I quit my job so that I can attend traditional church services?  :snicker:

For the last three years, I have also been working six and sometimes seven days weeks in order to pay off my creditors.  While others may dismiss their creditors (through bankruptcy or immoral neglegance), I cannot.  If I owe you or anyone else money, I will ensure that you get it in return.  I have done that.  I am now debt free, as of this month. [/i]
"So then, stand firm and hold to the traditions :o which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2005, 05:59:02 PM »
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While you are in church in the morning, it is highly likely that I am sleeping (due to working late); and when you are in church in the evening, it is highly likely that I am working. With that in mind, are you advising that I quit my job so that I can attend traditional church services?


I don't know what his intentions are but I was not. Again, it is all about faith. Trust God and He will see to it that you find a good solid BIble teaching church home and the time to attend it as a functional, profitable part of the body of Christ. God will meet us where we are at so that He can lead us to where He wants us to be. It is most important to be where God wants us to be and not where we feel we should be.

 Too many people are attending a church that isn't feeding them properly spiritually. They are there perhaps because they were brought up there, that their family has been attending that certain church or denomination since great great grandpa so-and-so came over on the boat. Or they are there simply out of tradition. Or they are there because they feel good, or the choir is heavenly or the church has a fantastic youth group. The reasons can go on and on but the only true reason one should be attending the church they do is because God put them there. One should never run into finding a church home all willy-nilly so to speak. Care must be taken along with much prayer and listening for God's direction. On thre other hand one should draw it out so long that they've attended every church within a 100 mile radius each several times in the last year or so. God wants us "hooked up" and doing our part.

All we have to do is trust in God!!!

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« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2005, 09:58:39 PM »
Cozee, you aren't being judgemental at all.  It is Barry who is judgemental (without having all the facts). :doh:.  :no:
"So then, stand firm and hold to the traditions :o which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2005, 10:10:17 AM »
You never know ME when those opportunities may arise.  Just as Scripture says that we're given certain spiritual gifts to serve others, the Holy Spirit will reveal what your gift is.  It may or may not be evangelism but nonetheless, you have one.

As Christians, we are all give the great comission to proclaim the Gospel to the world.  Unfortunately, most people don't want to listen.  However, that should not discourage us in making the best use of our time here on Earth.

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2005, 07:26:05 AM »
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It may or may not be evangelism but nonetheless


Being an evangelist and preaching the Word of God are two different things. The church universal has taken the gifts that Jesus has given us,

Eph 4:11-12

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
NKJV

and has come to rely on them for the worl of the ministry when this wasn't the intention according to Paul,

Eph 4:12-13
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
NKJV

They have their part yes, but largely they are here to equip the saints, the body of Christ, the Church, so that we can do the work of the ministry. Jesus was clear as to what we are to do,

John 14:12
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father
NKJV

Eph 4:12-13
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
NKJV

John 14:12
"Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father
NKJV

Mark 16:15
15 And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.  

Then we see the fruits of our obedience and submission,

Mark 16:16-18
16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.  17 And these signs will follow those who believe: In My name they will cast out demons; they will speak with new tongues;  18 they will take up serpents; and if they drink anything deadly, it will by no means hurt them; they will lay hands on the sick, and they will recover."  
NKJV

Eph 4:12-16

 13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; 14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, 15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head -- Christ --  16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
NKJV

We each have been given a gift(s) to fulfill our part in the Body, some in the pulpit, most not. All the while each and every one of us has been given a directive, an order so to speak, to go into all the world and proclaim the gospel.

 

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