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Offline Tom

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Re: Does God Speak
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2007, 01:51:52 PM »
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I find it interesting that Calvinists who claim that they are Calvinists because to be otherwise would limit God's sovereignty are the very ones who are telling us He can not do something.  It seems to me that the Calvinists would be the most open to God doing whatever He wants to do or communicating however He wants to communicate :poke:   :D

Oh, I don't doubt God can speak or sing if he so chooses, I just don't believe he does so today. That is not to say he does not communicate. The primary method of this communication is through his Word. There is no doubt that he puts desires or burdens on peoples hearts and then gives them favor or provides persecution to send them in particular direction. If this is your definition of God speaking then by all means he does.

The problem comes as when previously stated great "charasmatic leaders" such as Oral Roberts get on TV and claim God told him that if he didn't raise 10 million dollars he was going to kill him.":first: And this is their scholar people, the man who built the University!:bowl:
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Re: Does God Speak
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2007, 01:57:55 PM »
Tom, I hear ya buddy. That guy was ummmm a bit off. He does not represent the whole of the church in charismatic circles. In fact my teachers in Bible College openly rebuked that type of false doctrine.
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Re: Does God Speak
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2007, 02:32:24 PM »
Tom and Ed,

I totally understand what you are saying, and agree with you in large part.  Remember, I come from the Charismatic movement where I saw pretty screwy things being done in the name of "God told me....."

But, we can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.  I'm only saying I'm not limiting God's ability to speak in any way He chooses.

Personally, I'm not sure I've ever heard an audible voice.  But I can say with all certainty that He has spoken to my spirit "Words of knowledge" (1 Cor 12:8) in specific situations (revealing things to me that I would not have otherwise known).  Most of the time, it occurs in counseling situations, or at the altar during prayer time.  I've learned over the years to trust these Words, as they have never steered me wrong, and have greatly aided my ministry.

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