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Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« on: November 27, 2010, 10:04:20 AM »
Matthew 28:1-10 says that when Mary Magdalene went to the tomb that she was told by an angel that the Messiah had risen and would be seen in Galilee. Matthew then says that she ran "with great joy" to tell the disciples and while on the way that she met the Messiah (this occurred before she got to the disciples).

However, John 20:1 and 2  say that when she came to the tomb and didn’t find the Messiah there, that she ran to the disciples and told them that He had been taken away and that she didn’t know where He was. In Matthew she knew where He was (or at least had been) and where He would be, but in John she didn’t.


 How can this be reconciled?

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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2011, 12:45:39 PM »
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I'm afraid I don't see how your comments are applicable to the OP.  I wonder if you might explain?

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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #3 on: February 03, 2011, 03:51:52 PM »
It sounds like a simple semantic issue. She didn't know where he was, although she had seen him. She only knew that he would be going to Galilee. I see no confusion in this. Am I missing it?  :o
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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 01:51:48 PM »
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re:  "It sounds like a simple semantic issue. She didn't know where he was, although she had seen him. She only knew that he would be going to Galilee. I see no confusion in this. Am I missing it?"

It would seem so.  In John she says:  "They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him."

This doesn't sound like she knew that he had risen and was alive.   

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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2011, 08:05:18 AM »
It probably depends on the order of events e.g. each writer was referring to s specific "event in time." When those events in time are properly lined up, then the scriptures make perfect sense.  :o
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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2011, 07:24:02 AM »
It probably depends on the order of events e.g. each writer was referring to s specific "event in time." When those events in time are properly lined up, then the scriptures make perfect sense.  :o

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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2011, 10:38:11 AM »
What makes you think that she did not go twice each writer telling a different account.
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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2011, 03:24:51 PM »
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re: “What makes you think that she did not go twice each writer telling a different account.”


So you’re saying that Matthew 28:1-10 is referring to a subsequent visit by Mary M. after an earlier visit to the tomb - a visit that John 20:1 is writing about?

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Re: Matthew 28:1-10 versus John 20:1 and 2
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2011, 01:09:44 PM »
There are places in the gospels where it seems that the writers don't agree. In one gospel there were 2 demoniacs. In another gospel there was only 1. In another place Jesus was leaving a city when He performed a miracle and in another place it says He was entering the city. These are not issues to get caught up on. The point/principle/truth be behind the account doesn't change. This is only an issue for the KJV-only people who believe that every single word was dictated by God to the writers.

The policemen on this forum will know that it's hard to get the same story from witnesses to an incident much less all the unimportant details.

 

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