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« on: April 08, 2013, 06:53:40 AM »
Is there any time that God supports abortion? When and or why?
Isaiah 48:18,Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments! Then your peace would have been like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2013, 10:43:48 AM »
Nope

What is God's will? 1Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
"...to make all men see"(Ephesians 3:9)

We don't change God's message -- His message changes us.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2013, 11:44:36 AM »
Nope

What is God's will? 1Timothy 2:4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.

True but they must repent to be saved.
Isaiah 48:18,Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments! Then your peace would have been like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

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« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2013, 08:00:10 PM »
True but they must repent to be saved.

2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
It's not about dividing truth from error, it's all the word of truth, it's about dividing truth from truth, what's meant for Israel from what's meant for the Church, the body of Christ.
"...to make all men see"(Ephesians 3:9)

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2013, 10:07:59 PM »
2Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
 
It's not about dividing truth from error, it's all the word of truth, it's about dividing truth from truth, what's meant for Israel from what's meant for the Church, the body of Christ.
You are not dividing you are subtracting. My bible says there is neither Jew or Greek male nor female as we are all one in Christ. That means we all come the same way. Repentance toward God and faith toward the Lord Jesus Christ. Acts 20:21 No repentance no salvation as there is but one way for everyone.
Isaiah 48:18,Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments! Then your peace would have been like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2013, 10:35:01 PM »
Saved did your Mom have any kids that lived?
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 08:13:48 AM »
Is there any time that God supports abortion? When and or why?

No, I don't think so, however... if that is the case... then in the Old Testament, why did the Lord command that the Jews go into select villages to kill every living thing, to include women, children and animals?

Deuteronomy 20:16-18

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.
"So then, stand firm and hold to the traditions :o which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter" (2 Thessalonians 2:15).

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2013, 08:23:48 AM »
No, I don't think so, however... if that is the case... then in the Old Testament, why did the Lord command that the Jews go into select villages to kill every living thing, to include women, children and animals?

Deuteronomy 20:16-18

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.


Your answer is in verse 18
Isaiah 48:18,Oh that you had paid attention to my commandments! Then your peace would have been like a river, and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.

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Re: Abortion
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2013, 08:36:21 AM »
Saved did your Mom have any kids that lived?

Crusader my mother died without Christ. My brothers and sisters have all rejected the Lord's salvation. Hopefully they will repent before they too die in their sins, and hopefully they do not run into anyone like you who preaches a false salvation giving a false hope making them twice the sons of hell because without repentance there is no salvation.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2013, 12:35:41 PM »
Your answer is in verse 18

So it's ok to kill babies, in order to teach us not to sin, if verse 18 is applied, as you suggest?  :o
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2013, 01:37:43 PM »
So it's ok to kill babies, in order to teach us not to sin, if verse 18 is applied, as you suggest?  :o

Well I would say that is a twisted understanding but if that is what you believe I assume you will get a chance to answer for your murdering heart one day.
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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2013, 06:46:00 PM »
Well I would say that is a twisted understanding but if that is what you believe I assume you will get a chance to answer for your murdering heart one day.

My murdering heart? LOL Wow!  :o
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2013, 10:27:14 PM »
My murdering heart? LOL Wow!  :o
Certainly if you want to abort babies that is murder.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2013, 08:25:06 AM »
Certainly if you want to abort babies that is murder.

How do you explain the Lord's order to kill babies in the following scripture:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.
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Re: Abortion
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2013, 10:07:51 AM »
How do you explain the Lord's order to kill babies in the following scripture:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18

16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:

17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:

18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.


I told you. Your answer is in verse 18
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