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Re: The Church and Gun Control
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2013, 06:22:05 AM »
The gun debate is purely a political agenda and really has no place in the church. The Lord told the disciples Matthew 26:52 ('"Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.'), Luke 22:51 ('But Jesus answered, "No more of this!" And he touched the man's ear and healed him.'), and John 18:11 ('Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?"').

While He is not limiting His followers from having weapons altogether He is making it clear they have no business with them while spreading the gospel. You never see any suggestion from the letters in the NT where any apostle use deadly force to oppose others who would do them harm as they spread the message of God. When the message is faith it becomes clouded if weapons of death are also carried while presenting the message. I suppose it is easier to spread the message if our faith lies even partly in might, but that is not the message we are to share or how we are to share it. That being said we are not forbidden from having them and using them under certain conditions outside of spreading the gospel. We need to understand what those proper times are.

While I hope that the 2nd amendment does not suffer further degradation I don’t think that is going to happen. The blame for what has already happened lies mainly at the feet of those who claim to be 2nd amendment rights people (conservatives) rather then those who seek to dismantle it.

If you look at the 2nd amendment as given and as practiced in early America there are not exclusions or limitations. Early Americans could own any weapon they could afford and who could own it was not limited by age, mind set, or past lifestyle. As time went on the real reason for having the 2nd amendment was lost in the understanding of the people as schools stopped teaching the truth. Men and women had fought and died for their country as well as all the freedoms and protections we had under the constitution and who would of thought that the country they fought for would seek to dismantle the very constitution they so dearly loved and died for. The problem was that the schools stopped teaching the truth about the constitution and especially the 2nd amendment and its real purpose making it seem like the right was more of a privilege so people could hunt and protect their homes instead of the real purpose for the amendment which was to protect ourselves from a tyrannical government should it arise. Even today those who clamor for gun rights are arguing this limited reasoning instead of the real purpose for the right to bear arms.

Also as time progressed people began to think there would never be a threat from the government against our freedoms so they began to allow certain exclusions to the right. As people began to hear promises of safety if we make certain exclusions to the 2nd amendment many pro gun people actually jumped on board so the limitations began to accelerate. It was sort of like as long as I am not limited I have no problem that someone else is limited. The problem is that they failed to realize that you cannot sell another's right without effecting your own. As time passed more and more limits were being placed even by so called conservative legislators and Presidents. Although the 1993’s Brady Bill was signed by President Clinton what most people forget is that President Reagan threw his support behind it as well as the 1994’s Assault Weapons Ban after he left office and because so many respected Reagan many 2nd amendment people jumped on board and the stripping away really took hold.

Now all of a sudden those people who sold other’s right for the claim of safety now fear of losing their own. While there is no doubt that such is the agenda of some to totally ban guns the need is not there because when enough laws are enacted to limit who has the right to bear arms even though there is no outright exclusion it makes the 2nd amendment useless for what it was intended and that was to take up arms against the government if it became tyrannical. The thing is that we are very quickly approaching that place. Now that an alarm is being levied it is most likely too little too late. So while the claim is that liberals are responsible for what is taking place the truth is that so called gun advocates hold the greater responsibility for allowing us to be where we are today and where we will be in the future. The sad thing is that once a freedom or right is lost its restoration is near impossible and in this case I believe totally impossible.
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